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Radim: Hey, welcome to another bonus episode of the Daring Creativity Podcast. This is episode number 23 of the series. And as you might know, I'm here to unpack some of the gems from this week's conversation, pulling out those moments, they deserve a second look and digging deeper in what's making them special.

I'm always on the lookout for the moments and ideas that hit differently. This week. I spoke to Luke Carson About his life career as a creative producer and a brand strategies who represents his father legendary graphic designer David Carson, while forging his own path at the intersection of design, sport, and culture.

This episode published a few days ago was titled Dare to Find Beauty in the Struggle, it has given me a chance to find out how Luke being a cancer survivor gave him a totally different outlook on life and showed him a way towards the life and career he has today.

If you haven't checked out a full interview yet, let me start with these four moments that stood out from our conversation.

Luke: And to see that and to look in the mirror at 1819. Oh my gosh. you don't wish that upon anyone. And so, I did find myself losing my grip even when the sites or I guess the goals were near and clear in terms of my cancer cure date was around the corner, which later became May 1st, 2017 after five rounds of chemo and 21 days of radiation. but even with that site in mind, it became obviously a very daunting experience once I had a little bit time on my hands to just take a step back. And so one of the things that I did was that I worked with a tutor and improved my college testing scores in order to get into a dream university.

And I improved my score by over 400 points, which then ultimately got me into my dream film school, as I mentioned a bit earlier, the third in the country, just behind NYU and USC. found some beauty in the struggle, which has actually been A consistent life lesson to this day is, if you're still chugging, you're still, if there's still life to be had, there's something there for you.

As you may expect from someone being a David Carson's son, we did cover some of the work they do as a father son production du, shall we say.

But I had to, I have to be honest, I found a lot more interesting facts in Luke's battle with Hodgkin's lymphoma, uh, when he was just, well before he just turned 19, and it was, it was a story that. And Vince Barr at the title of this episode dare to Find Beauty in the Struggle, because 

 What was fascinating to find out how this experience has defined Luke's choices and approach to life because he didn't surrender to the darkness at that moment when he felt the most illest. He also worked with a tutor on improving his college scores by nearly 400 points, and ultimately gaining him admission to his dream film school at Chapman University.

and it's hard to imagine for for anyone who didn't have to go through such traumatic and life altering experience that we would be looking forward ahead. This is what I find his perspective remarkable in his practicality.

Luke didn't romanticize suffering or suggesting that hardship is valuable in itself. It's rather that he discovered that even in the bleakest moments, progress happens in increments. Those small wins, they compound. In a single study session, one more completed assignment. these were micro victories that created momentum for him with the larger goal survival itself, which felt overwhelming, but the mindset that permeates in his creative work.

 whether it's now curating a complex brand partnerships, or pushing through a challenging collaboration, Luke applies the same principle. Focus on what's immediately in front of you. Trust the process and believe something meaningful exists On the other side of difficulty,

Luke: So that's what I was gonna say is to that point, I know what it's like to be on a ticking time bomb, if you will, where you don't know what's next. You don't know if you're gonna make it through. You don't know how you're gonna react to specific round of chemo. And so I like to keep the gas on the pedal.

I have friends to this day saying, sometimes you need to chill a little bit, Luke. well, I don't have a drinking problem. I don't do drugs. love experiences. So I'm very active. I like to think I live 10 lives in a Saturday in New York City. 'cause I really do, I'll be upstate at a, at an architecture park slash art museum.

And then I'll make it back down and still go to a friend's gallery opening and then still go out for a dinner with friends and maybe see a jazz show or a DJ set and boom, 1214 hour day, 16 hour day, and still get my eight hours of sleep and then do it again the next day.

the second part of our conversation about Luke's approach to life. It's very much. On living endless energy now and having that real zestful life and taking in every single moment. his willingness to extend trips by weeks when they feel right.

His ability to live 10 lives in a Saturday between upstate architecture, museum, gallery openings, and late night jazz show. It's not lessness or escapism, but it's the purposeful urgency of someone who has genuinely confronted mortality. So going back to those moments where Luke watched himself deteriorate during chemotherapy, when he was pale and bold and fighting for survival at 19, he gained that perspective.

Most people his age never require. Time is an infinite energy isn't guaranteed. And I the opportunity to travel, shoot, film photography, or play basketball at various places. These are the substances of life fully lived and this philosophy also informs his creative career.

He didn't wait for the perfect moment to approach his father about representation. He didn't spend years climbing traditional agency ladder. He trusted his instincts, build relationships, and moved quickly when opportunities aligned.

His friends tell him to chill, but Luke knows something they don't. the privilege of tomorrow isn't promised. So today demands your full attention.

Luke: The way I am, the way I think what attracts me, what doesn't, attract me. A big thing he always teaches is trusting your intuition, your gut.

he never had schooling. There were no rules to break. It just is what made sense to him and communicated. And, you know, as you know, it came with a lot of hate mail in the early days. It came with a lot of, what is this crap? But he never, never second guessed himself. And I think that's, an approach that I've always found useful for my life is trusting my gut. Take that risky trip to Vietnam without knowing where you're going. buy those jeans that you found in Japan, even though they're a little out of budget because you really believe in the brand and the person making them. make those are smaller decisions, but again, that intuition aspect.

of course we talked about how he works with his dad, David Carson, on creating work that challenges various aspects, brand collaborations and brand partnerships.

But it all stems from David Carson's. Still like intuition and what Louis was referring to throughout this conversation that what we now know about David Carson's career, that his. A rebel like approach to creativity and graphic design is very unique and it's not always for everyone.

And to hear about the fact that, you stick with that intuition you keep at it, you gain people who are for you and people who are against you, and is that trust and instinct and the intuition that is in Luke's Carson's, DNA too. In this moment of the conversation, like he talks about the fact that this lesson in intuition manifests itself differently, but equally powerful.

And Luke suggest, and Luke suggested to me that, the work that David was doing or still doing is it's kind of trust in instinct over formal training. It's going to places where others might not want to go and.

 when him and David are working on the new partnerships being with Stussy or Rafa or other places, it's always informed by lived experiences, cultural dimension, and genuine curiosity, because those still outperform formulaic approaches. He chooses brands based on fields, not spreadsheets.

 he documents is live with film cameras that might fail rather than perfect. Digital captures. In an age where creative decisions are often committee approved and market tested, Luke's willingness to trust his gut and represent a form of a rebellion as significant as his father's typographic.

Innovations it's approved at a Carson's legacy isn't about specific design techniques. It's about a courage to follow your instinct, even when others can't see what you see.

Luke: day in, day out, I'm always going into my own, recognition of brands that I admire, moments in time stores that have impacted me. the Rafa Clubhouse in New York always stood out to me because I grew up around the corner. It's been around, I believe, for about, almost 10 years now, if not a little longer. I think first and foremost, it was culturally, is this a good fit? Are the people that I'm talking with and building a rapport with, do they feel like people that get him? Because if it's a force collaboration, and again, it's just a brand and brand moment that's gonna be communicated even in the final product, people are gonna feel that this was a bit more of a clickbait moment than it's an actual story. And I think from the get go, they really wanted to understand his ethos, his approach. There were specific guidelines because this was a very specific collaboration. It was to celebrate their 10 years of Rafa cycling club. And so there were parameters that came with that. but he loves those challenges because in a lot of cases, people just perceive him as like a, throw everything at the pallet, take it or leave it.

As a keen cyclist. I wanted to know what I could know about the collaboration that Rafa and David Carson produced and released not that long ago.

And it's something to treasure that these collaborations happens that people are actually willing to pursue. Even, be it famous names or just pursue creativity for a partnership to push what the status quo is right now because that collaboration succeed 

To make sure that David Carson's, DNA creative DNA is seen and felt throughout the collaboration rather than, as Luke says, that sometimes he's quite disappointed and sad. That big collaborations with big brands and big, influences or creatives are merely just a sort of exercise and sitting side by side, on a billboard rather than really pushing what could be possible.

From the conversation I've learned that David Carson very much got into the mindset of Rafa through visiting the Meca Clubhouse whilst they were on a different project in Meca and this collaboration just shows how, just a little touch of great sort of personality and great.

Visionary design work can actually elevate something which can feel, bit stale, bit predictable, and how does it breathe the new lease of life. So the disruptive Carson's aesthetic really matters 'cause it helps them to operate in a era where brand collaborations have become formulaic.

The insistence of genuine creative connection over commercial convenience really achieve something of super high standards and of incredible aesthetic. So Luke's protecting his father's legacy while proven that authentic storytelling still resonates more powerfully than algorithmic partnership designed purely for social media management.

Thank you for joining me on this episode. If you haven't checked out a full episode with Lou Carson, I'd like to encourage you to do so, and thank you for being here, and I'll catch you on the next one.