Creativity for Sale Podcast - Episode S3 E12

"Perfection is a tool we use to stop ourselves" (James Victore bonus episode)

Thu, 24 Jul 2025

A short bonus episode showcasing a few stand out moments from this weeks guest interview with James Victore.Daring Forever. Podcast with Radim Malinicdaringcreativity.com |  desk@daringcreativity.comBooks by Radim Malinic Paperback and Kindle > https://amzn.to/4biTwFcFree audiobook (with Audible trial) > https://geni.us/free-audiobookBook bundles  https://novemberuniverse.co.ukLux Coffee Co. https://luxcoffee.co.uk/  (Use: PODCAST for 15% off)November Universe https://novemberuniverse.co.uk (Use: PODCAST for 10% off)



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A short bonus episode showcasing a few stand out moments from this weeks guest interview with James Victore.

Daring Forever. Podcast with Radim Malinic

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Radim: Hey, welcome to this bonus episode of the Daring Creativity Podcast. This is where I revisit the interview published early in the week, giving me an opportunity to zoom in on a few standup moments for the extra value and meaning. and this week, I released a conversation with James Victore,

 and this episode's been extremely popular since it's been released, and there's no wonder why.

 If you've ever come across James Victore, you know that he's unique in his thinking and his expression and his creativity and philosophies. I truly cherish what we captured, and I would like to focus on four moments that caught my attention.

Here's the first one.

James Victore:  You have to love yourself and love your creativity so much that you will do what you can to protect it, right?

And to get it out into the world. But what's stopping it is self-hate. What's stopping it is doubt and fear, you know? it's that classic story of, the Native American grandfather who's telling, he's talking to his son about two wolves. 

he says, there are two wolves fighting inside of you. And one is jealousy and anger and frustration and doubt and ignorance and fear. And the other wolf is love and compassion and creativity and empathy. And the son says, which wolf wins? And the old man says, the one you feed. 

Radim: This engine parable reveals that creative success isn't about talent or opportunity. It's about which internal voice you choose to strengthen daily. James used this metaphor to explain why some people flourish creatively while others remain frustrated.

It is not dramatic moments that determine creative outcomes, but it's the accumulation of small daily choices between self-doubt and self-trust, fear and laugh. The insight reframes, creative struggle from external circumstances, baders difficult clients to internal agency. which thought do I amplify?

Making it simultaneously more challenging and more helpful. You can't control the market, but you can control which wolf you feed through concrete action, creative risks, and authentic expressions. For James as a coach, this provides a framework for helping frustrated creatives recognize that positive thinking alone doesn't work.

You must actively feed the wolf while starving the fear through consistent creative courage. It was so easy to choose the name of the episode because daring to feed the right wolf just stood up for a mile. To me, the.

Here's the second quote I  would like to feature.

James Victore: you know, when I was a kid, I was shy. I have since learned there is no genetic,marker for shyness. I wasn't just born shy, I was told shy. I was shy when I was a kid, and my father used to constantly do that. He says, oh, this is ' cause I was the boy and a baby. He was like, oh, this is,Jimmy.

He's my shy one. And I'm like. Am I fuck? Am I shy? Am I okay? I guess I'll have to be shy. Right? it's taken me a long time to kind of get over that. Um, 

Radim: If you've ever listened to any other episodes of this podcast, the topic of shyness and inverse has come up a few times and is my nosy curious way of actually. Understanding people's way and seeing the subject and seeing their reality

 how did it affect them? Just like we've been discussing rejection for the last few weeks, and I wanted to ask more. and you would not think that James Victoria has ever been shy because of who he is now.

Only to find out that he was told by his father. Jim is the shy one.  and when you think about this revelation, it demolishes one of the most limiting beliefs that creative people carry, that personality traits are fixed or unchangeable. When James' father repeatedly introduced him as my shy one, it became self-fulfilling prophecy that took years to overcome.

Exposing how childhood labeling becomes utter limitation. and this insight shifts responsibility from, well, this is just how I am to, this is how I learn to be and I can learn differently. which is particularly crucial for creatives who avoid self-promotion or public expression because they believe they are naturally shy.

The moment gives people permission to reinvent themselves based on modern neuroscience, confirming that our brains remain changeable throughout life. The neuro pathways, cre and shyness can be weakened. One, your pathways for confidence can be strengthened through practice just like every other muscle, right?

For anyone saying. I could never do public speaking or I'm not good at networking. James proves that these are learned limitations, not generic reality.

And here we've got a third, uh, standout moment.

James Victore: it's a tool we use to stop ourselves. That's it. It's a tool we use to stop ourselves. And it comesfrom, like we were maybe as kids, we were competitive and, or we had grew up in a competitive family and we, you know, we always had to do better and we always had to prove ourselves.

So we became perfectionists. I was running a, I was running one of my, one of my live workshops that I do occasionally. I have one coming up in the fall I'm very excited about. But, I had a guy who was a CEO and he'd worked his way up. From he literally joined this marketing agency,mopping floors, and he became the CEO.

Like he, he was pretty amazing. And he's, at this camp, I realized in conversations that he was a double major in college in chemistry and biology, double major. And he runs marathons. And we went, we, I took him for a walk and we're walking around, the property and I forget what his, let's say his name was Ken, I think.

I don't remember his name. Tim actually. And, uh, we were walking around the property and I said, Tim, tell me something. He's yeah. I said,

what are you trying to prove? Who are you trying to prove it to? And he just broke down in tears. He just busted down. He didn't know. He didn't, he, no one had ever seen or told him that he was enough and he didn't have to constantly fucking. Prove himself by running marathons and double major and being excelling all the time. 

Radim: Ha, the topic of perfection. Another element, another pillar of creative life that I've been discussing for quite a while with my guests, because I didn't know for a long time about my label of perfectionism. How do I see it?

What do I use? Perfectionism as a mask. And James talked about sabotage in our conversation. Like sabotage for him was, the fear of sharing things or not being able to express, what he was doing. 

The inside reframes perfectionism from a positive trait, so psychological defense mechanism. It's rooted in childhood wounds explaining why so many talented people remain creatively paralyzed despite having technical skills.

That story of the CEO who broke down reveals that perfectionism isn't about the work. It's about trying to prove worthiness through performance. Creating an impossible standard where no achievement is ever enough because the real need and that's unconditional acceptance, can never be met externally.

 This explains why perfectionism kills creativity rather than enhancing it since creative work requires experimentation and failure, but if failure threatens you, your sense of worthiness.

You'll avoid the very process that leads to breakthroughs the moment often both diagnosis, perfectionism is fear-based, sabotage and cure, recognizing you're already worthy regardless of your work's perception. It's shifting the creative process from proving worthiness to expressing authentically and requiring conscious effort to separate self-worth from performance.

This is the fourth moment I would like to zoom in on.

James Victore: There's one word, and it's to get people to allow it in themselves. That's the hard part, right? Because it's in you and it's gotta come out. That's the hard part, is to allow it. And you have to let people know that it's, you know, that they're worthy. You have to let people know that. 

Radim: This was one of the moments where I simply stopped making any further notes in the conversation because it just felt like, um. I don't know. It felt like a sort of hug, uh, I mean, I wouldn't say a light bulb, but it felt like a hug for everyone who needs that recognition, who needs just that extra step forward and say, you know what?

You can allow yourself, you can break down the barriers, you can embrace your creativity because.

 the moment that reveals the deepest truth about creativity itself. The problem is never lacking of creativity, but the lack of permission to express what's already there.

And James reframes the entire creative development process from skill acquisition to permission granting suggesting that creativity exists within everyone, and the real work is removing barriers rather than building capacity. The inside that people need to know that they're worthy reveals the therapeutic dimension of creative coaching.

Since many creative blocks are actually serve with issues in disguise where technical skills development becomes secondary to psychological healing, this creates permission paradox where adults wait for external permissions to create, but that permission can only come from within granting permission was mentioned on this season previously, and it is a solution that is simultaneously simple.

to allow yourself to create and emotionally difficult to overcome decades of conditioning. Explaining why creative breakthroughs often feel like relief rather than achievement.You're finally allowing what was always there. If you haven't had a chance to listen to the full conversation with James, I just.

Kindly ask you to do so because it will give you so much value. The man is a one of a kind and I really treasured the opportunity to speak to him. So thank you for joining me on this episode, and I will see you next week. 






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