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[00:00:00] Hey, welcome to another bonus episode of the Daring Creativity Podcast. I'm here to unpack some of the gems from this week's conversation, pulling out those moments that deserve a second look and dig deeper into what makes them special. This week I spoke to Ryan Luse, a motion designer, and our director from Marion County in California.

The episode published a few days ago was titled, dare to Let Your Work Be Rough Around the Edges. And it was a conversation full of honest storytelling, how to overcome life and work obstacles, talking about life pivots, and a lot of conversation about mountain biking, and its parallel with creativity. 

 If you haven't checked out a full conversation yet, Let me share these four moments that stood out from my conversation.

Ryan: initially it's a really overwhelming to be on a mountain bike with all these controls you're riding on, unpredictable terrain. You're, you're looking at rocks or whatever, and you just don't know how the bike goes over that, I guess.

Ryan: but over time you just get a sense of what the bike is [00:01:00] capable of and what you're capable of. And I, I would say, to answer your question, the biggest thing that pulled me in initially was, this comfort or, sorry, concept of comfort zone. where if you are always in your comfort zone on a bike, you're not going to learn much and you're not going to progress much. And you might, even get bored because you're staying within this comfort zone that's quite limiting at first. and fear kind of keeps you from pushing the bike too fast or whatever, but someone early on told me you should be riding just past your comfort zone.

As you may have heard me talking on this podcast before, I'm a keen cyclist and any moment or any opportunity to talk about cycling and what it means and how we can find that at one moment on a bike is always the one that I'll be searching for. and 

This moment that Ryan just shared was the pivotal for the whole episode. He uses mountain biking, not as a metaphor, but as a lived in experience. And I guess that was the reason why it landed so differently [00:02:00] because when he was talking about going downhill, he didn't have time to overthink.

You either lean in or you don't. And that moment about, you know, riding past your comfort zone. Seems a little bit edgy, but essentially he's just saying that the creative process works the same way. The brief that scares you, the client, no, that frustrates you, the project you nearly said no to. Those are the ones that push your skills forward.

The. The comfort zone isn't safety. It's stagnation dressed up nicely. And Ryan's been testing this principle for 25 years on a bike before applying it to studio work, and that lived and proof makes it impossible to argue with.

Ryan: it was the first job I've ever, and only that I've ever quit because I knew I needed time. I couldn't process what I was going through and work this other job at the same time. So that was basically dedication to, stillness, to just like not traveling and escaping and distracting myself or getting [00:03:00] more dopamine from this or that, but just, I'm not gonna work for a while.

I'm just gonna spend time with my partner and our dog and just kind of figure out what's right for me and what's authentic for me. Because the path I was on that's not where I want to go anymore. So like, what's my new path? What's my authentic path? And as you can imagine, that's a pretty hard question to answer that it takes a lot of reflection.

So that's really what caused me to really look deeply into intuition and instinct and my own emotional intelligence and just. Give it time and just see what direction it's pulling me, 

 It's potentially the bravest thing that Ryan said in the entire conversation because it goes against everything we are conditioned to do in a crisis.

Most people respond to job loss by immediately searching for the next thing, updating cvs, fir enough email, staying busy to avoid quiet. How many times did we find ourselves, you know, redesigning websites and panicking instead of actually, you know, having the proper strategy? in Ryan's [00:04:00] situation, he did just the opposite.

After being let go from his last position, he just sat with it and in the industry, and let's be honest, obsessed with output and momentum. Choosing stillness as a strategy feels almost radical, kind of almost improbable. What makes this so compelling is the honesty around what followed. Credit card debt, anxiety, uncertainty.

He didn't romanticize it. he just knew that burying the real work under more work would only delay the inevitable, and it takes a level of self-awareness. Most of us spend years trying to find

Ryan: And, the biggest takeaway I think out of all this stuff has been when you get into these states of, your mind is calmer and you're present with yourself and all that, occasionally these random thoughts, these intuitions, instincts, uh, revelations, whatever you wanna call it, they'll pop up and you, you can grab onto it if you want.

And that's where I've probably found the most truth, if we're gonna call it truth [00:05:00] seeking throughout all this internal work. it's been those random moments where you can't plan it, just a thought pops up and it's rethinking something in a way that I never thought before. For creative projects.

For personal relationships for. My own life and direction, all sorts of stuff, like everything. But, it's those little moments that I think I keep doing this for, and it gives me a lot of gratitude for who I am and a lot of hope for, where things are going.

This episode with Ryan really resonated with, uh, quite a few listeners around the world already, and it has been beautiful to see the messages coming back because in this moment, Orion describes something that science actually backs up beautifully here.

When the mind quiets down the default mode network, the part of our brain responsible for insights and creativity, it gets space to do its thing. He's not talking about mindlessness or achieving some perfect zen state. He's talking about those unexpected thoughts that arrive when you stop forcing them.

 For [00:06:00] creatives, this is gold. we're so wired to produce, to validate, to check that we rarely give our best ideas room to surface. Naturally we force them. And Ryan's willingness to sit in the discomfort of his own mind long enough to get those moments is a skill and one that he had to train for.

And that's the most part. People skip.

Ryan: I think more than anything, something I've uncovered over this past couple years is the core of why I do this stuff is to contribute to culture. And when it comes to making the, the music stuff, for the concert visuals, it felt like there was a, a really cool observation of just seeing people enjoy a concert with my animations in the background, knowing that I had something to do with that.

there's gonna be many other ways that I can contribute to culture in the future, but I think right now opening up about my own vulnerability and what I've been through and, and what I've learned as a result, if that helps just one or a couple people get through whatever they're going through, whatever burnout, anxiety, depression, whatever.

Ryan: I think [00:07:00] more of us need to be open about talking about this on a public stage, and it only helps. So if I saw someone like this talking a couple years ago and vulnerable about their situation, I know that would've helped me get through what I was going through at the time. 

 even though I thought that we finished our conversation, Ryan came up with one more moment, which really, you know, it was one of those that just stood out and made total sense as a summary of what I've been talking to him and learning about his work, about his journey.

 This moment reframes the whole career pivot going from corporate tech work to concert visuals. This was not just a business decision, but a values decision.

He wanted his work to mean something beyond deliverable, and it extends the conversation itself, opening up about depression, asking for help, working with a coach. He's not sharing it for cloud. He's sharing it because he knows someone is listening who needs to hear it Two years ago when he needed to hear himself.[00:08:00] 

That kind of generosity, especially from someone still figuring it out, is what makes the best podcast moment genuinely memorable. I thanked Ryan for his honesty, for his transparency and generosity, sharing these thoughts 

because those moments are the ones that make difference in anyone's life. Thank you for joining me on this bonus episode. If you haven't checked out a full episode just yet, I would like to believe that I just convinced you to do so, and I'll see you on the next one. Thank you.